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Brent Crandall, SLC, UT — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 19:50:48 GMT

This site tracks the current selection of Apple refurbished products. Unlike the refurb section of the Apple store, this site is actually bookmarkable:

http://www.apple-discounts.com

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Joe, New York, NY — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 21:17:23 GMT

I recently bought a refurbished router from apple.com to save $10. It didn't work, and took me an entire morning working with Apple before they told me to bring it to the store. I told them I would be sending it back, not driving it to the store (!) and I bought a new one that worked.

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J Elias, Los Angeles, CA — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 21:22:30 GMT

This price drop move by Apple on the top of the line iPhone is completely inconsistent with their brand strategy. I bought the iPhone early because I knew based on historical marketing and brand positioning Apple holds its retail prices on products UNTIL new products or upgrades become available. One has been able to be fairly sure in the past that you won't be a sucker by buying an Apple product early. After years of being a Apple brand loyal they lost me today.

I called Apple's iPhone center today and they said they were sorry but too bad. VERY POOR response to a major faux pas by Apple.

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Mike Lee — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 21:59:17 GMT

To those suckers who queued up for days for this gizmo, only for the price to drop by 200 bucks, I say ha-ha-ha to you.
Next time you think of queuing up, causing traffic snarl-ups, because you can't wait a few weeks for a new product serves you right.
On they bright side, at least my Apple stock went up, so keep it up and continue forking over your money just so that you can be the first with a new gizmo.

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Ledru, Boulder, CO — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 22:13:36 GMT

I bought by iPhone less than a month ago. If I had known the price will be cut and the model I bought won't be supported any longer, I could have saved money by waiting just a couple of weeks.

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J. Christopher Stokes, Harlem, USA — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 22:27:53 GMT

I actually waited to purchase a refurbished i-phone. I paid $100 less for the 8GB model. And now I hear that there will be another price decrease, wow.
I have known, or thought I did, that Apple wouldn't lower prices until a new model hit the stores. Now I am upset to have purchased this at this price. And Apple can lower their prices all they want to. The real issue of returns is that AT&T charges an arm and a leg for deposits. I have heard $500 to turn on a phone! Now you are stuck with a phone and no service provider. So of course they're being returned to the stores.
Oh yeah, and by the way I love my phone.

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Todd, Nashville, TN — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 22:32:59 GMT

You're whining because of the price drop? Early adopters pay a premium for the new tech they receive. If you thought it was worth $599 at the time of purchase, that was your choice. Steve Jobs didn't force you to buy one. Last time I checked, $599 is an extremely outrageous price for a cell phone that can be lost or broken easily. If you didn't think the phone was worth $599 at the time of launch, wait it out.

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Mike P., Baltimore, MD — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 22:35:37 GMT

I bought an 8 gig for $599 and don't regret it one bit and I'm not angry they dropped the price. I wanted to be an early adopter and knew what I was getting into. I know people are angry/upset , but you can't constantly worry about when/if there is going to be an update/price drop on high end technology sometime in the near future. Live in the present, enjoy and get the most out of the products you buy.

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Eugene Pagano, Oyster Bay, NY — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 22:37:16 GMT

I feel much like J Elias. I have sent complaints to both the store where I bought the iPhone and to iPhone feedback on the Apple web site. Maybe if Apple receives enough complaints it will recognize that it has created a customer relations mess.

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Bill Edwards, Seattle, WA — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 22:47:52 GMT

So this is how Apple treats their early adaptors -- once they get them signed up, then they sucker punch them with a 33% price drop? I bought my first Mac in 1984, and very likely my last in 2007 based on the recent treatment. This is behavior I expect from Mr. Gates, not Mr. Jobs.

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Emerson, Woodstock, VT — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 23:09:44 GMT

Oh, come on you guys. Those of us who got it one the first day have had more than $200 enjoyment in showing it off!

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K Gunn — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 23:23:09 GMT

A little anti-apple are we? This article is full of half truths and total lack of research is blatantly apparent.

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James Cervo, LA, CA — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 23:23:50 GMT

Elias, what did you expect them to say? Even with this iphone fiasco, Apple products outshine any and all hightech products made anywhere. Just think, IBM computer made in China? Are there people who buy it? During the last year Dell had nearly as many returns in ONE DAY as Apple had in a year. You purchased a product because of the hype, you wanted to be "in", one of the firsts. The secret is "always shop after 'Christmas' when prices are lower".

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Dan F, Princeton, NJ — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 23:43:37 GMT

I agree, such a huge price drop so soon is a slap in the face to the loyal Apple customers who adopted the iPhone early.

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EWP — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 23:50:35 GMT

The price decrease so soon was a slap in the face. Apple's getting too cocky. That means stock will see $26 again

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Ferdinand Tomas, Seattle Wash — Thu, 06 Sep 2007 00:09:10 GMT

Very Very unusual for Apple to cut prices of such magnitude after a 2 months of a product introuction. Cutting prices before the next version is very unusual in itself. I guess the question is why? If Apple thought they could sell it at $499 (4gig) and $599 (8gig) for a year or so like their usual product cycle, then by in cutting prices so soon they have admitted a mistake. Was there enough demand at that price point to generate the kind of sales they were looking for? Or, if after the initial enthusiam, they were beginning to see a serious decline? Cutting prices like this is probably not too unusual for a cell phone maker/provider (via discounts) but for Apple is downright strange. I'm a huge Apple fan but (also a very loyal Tmobile customer) but couldn't see myself forking over over $500+ for a 1st version product to go to ATT / Cingular. My Blackberry will work phone until Apple lowers the prices (which they have), releases Version 2 with new goodies, and someone is able reliable unlock the it so i can use on on the TMobile network (or if Apple releases an unlocked Phone). So Apple is 1 of 3, and the rest of us are waiting for the other 2.

But Apple came out with great new products today!

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JJ — Thu, 06 Sep 2007 00:19:16 GMT

I guess I too am a sucker. But only once!! I have many Apple products and have always felt confident about being one of the first to purchase because of their brand strategy. After many years as a loyal Apple customer I feel we have been sold out!!

I waited on hold for a total of 2 hours only to be told I made a decision to buy an iphone 19 days ago and Apple's policy for price adjustments is 14. If I had even suspected an unprecedented move like this I would have purchased a much less expensive phone and I will next time!!!

They have completely alienated their core customer base.

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Getting an iPhone — Thu, 06 Sep 2007 00:31:06 GMT

I don't see how people can complain about the price drop. It is odd for Apple, yes, but that's no reason to stop buying their products. Just don't be such an early adopter next time. Of course, I'm just thrilled because I can afford one now.

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Moose — Thu, 06 Sep 2007 00:37:31 GMT

Although I appreciate the drop in price, it appears the Apple has not addressed the major issue regarding the iPhone - cellular phone reception. Although I appreciate technology integration that iPhone represents, if Apple cannot resolve the reception problem, then I still won't purchase an iPhone.

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dave san diego, ca — Thu, 06 Sep 2007 00:49:29 GMT

Wow... are you guys honestly going to sit here and be upset about a company lowering a price, making less profit on it, more affordable and more accessible to a larger audience? Completely lame and absurd... Remember when CD players first came out? They cost $2,000 - you can get one for $39 at walmart today... its how the world works, get over it.

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elmostro — Thu, 06 Sep 2007 00:54:53 GMT

ha ha ha ha

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K Nelson, Cupertino (yes, where Apple is HQ'd), CA. — Thu, 06 Sep 2007 01:03:58 GMT

I am an Apple loyalist, and, yes, an iPhone owner. Despite today's other exciting news (the new iPods, for instance) I am really ticked about the iPhone price slash.

It's out of character, and I feel totally punched in the stomach. Apple is basically saying, "We've got this awesome product, put your faith in us - buy this, you'll love it - and, oh yeah, we're going to cut the price by 33% after 2 months just to show you what a sucker you really are."

OUCH. It's enough to make me not want to buy anything else Apple. People were oogling my phone until today, and now I'm just a bonafide fool for owning one so early. I took a leap and adopted the 1st gen knowing full well what I was getting into with a 2nd gen coming down the line, but I didn't expect THIS.

Is this how you treat customers? No. Not if you want to keep them.

Apple needs to roll something out for the $599 8GB bunch who feel totally screwed over. We got totally two timed here - there's some punshment that comes with early adoption of a new product - but this is just retarded.

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katydid1952, Alaska — Thu, 06 Sep 2007 01:12:05 GMT

I might have been sore, too, if I had bought a new iPhone when they first came out. But I HAD to wait because we don't get ATT in Alaska until next year. I thought it was for the best, expecting I'd get a later generation phone with some improvements. Naturally, since the new iPod Touch is coming out, I might now keep my &^%$# current phone and just get one of those.

But hey you folks who are complaining about this one move driving you away from the Apple -- give me a break! It's still Apple, and it still has the best products on the market. Give them some slack.

P.S. I've been a PC user since 1985, and built several machines, but I switched to Macs in mid-year '06. If I didn't have to use a PC at work, I'd be totally free of them. I don't regret my decision one whit.

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Dave, Seattle, WA — Thu, 06 Sep 2007 01:19:34 GMT

Even selling well, the iPhone has less than 2% marketshare. Wouldn't making the phone more ubiquitous be in line w/ shareholder interests? Cut cost, make it up in volume? And don't forget pressure that's soon to come from Google (G-Phone)...

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JC, Dallas, Texas — Thu, 06 Sep 2007 01:25:17 GMT

Why such a big price drop you ask? I will tell you why, Cingular (ATT&T)...now that they have come out with a hack to unlock the iphone; you’re not constraint to stay with Cingular. This cut was made by Apple because it was pressured by Cingular to drop the price of the iphone in order to get more customers to sign a 2 year contract before the hack was made public. After all, Cingular signed an exclusive contract with apple to only release the iphone on their network and not any other.

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Erik, San Diego, CA — Thu, 06 Sep 2007 02:36:37 GMT

Thanks Apple for not only robbing us early adopters of $200 each, but also making us all feel like fools.
Apple has now not ONLY alienated and totally pissed off its entire once loyal customer base, but they have also forever sealed their future new product launch fate.
Because of this panicked move, they will NEVER AGAIN get the kind of buzz, hype and free advertising that was generated on iDay!!!
From now on, those Apple fans that do remain true, will either wait for the other shoe (i.e. price) to drop and/or will wait for at least two months, so as not to be viewed as a flipping idiot.
And on top of all that, Apple stock dropped with the iPhone price decrease....Smooth move, Steve!

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Josh — Thu, 06 Sep 2007 02:45:16 GMT

Apple refurbs are a proven strategy for success for veteran Apple buyers. They have a high success rate, are more closely tested than new products and often are new themselves.

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Art — Thu, 06 Sep 2007 02:49:39 GMT

"It's out of character! It's out of character!" It is NOT out of character in the CELLULAR PHONE MARKET for prices to drop this fast. Stop basing your arguments on Apple's computer and iPod history. Cell phones are a COMPLETELY different market space all together. Remember: you CHOSE to be an early adopter. Quit blaming Apple for doing business as the market dictates. The holiday season is soon upon us and competition is heating up. I say "Bravo, Apple".

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John Doe, Seattle, Wash — Thu, 06 Sep 2007 02:57:31 GMT

MSNBC - I hope that MS will take advantage of this massive misstep by the "genious" Steve Jobs. Loved the drop in Zune prices. Now hoping for a Google Phone.

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KH, TX — Thu, 06 Sep 2007 03:04:36 GMT

The problem with this is that it has only been 2 months since this phone came out. I bought this phone 1 month ago. I didn't wait in any line or have to be the first one to get it. It is wrong for Apple to cut the price $200 after 2 months. If I had known I certainly would have waited another month and so would everybody else! Nobody expects a product to drop that dramatically in price in such a short period of time. It is not being replaced by another model nor does it have any competition. They could have priced it at $400 when it came out, obviously they are still making a huge profit. Bad bad business!!!!

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Robert Pepe Sharon,Ma — Thu, 06 Sep 2007 03:10:19 GMT

I feel like such a sucker. Everyone told me to wait. Blah Blah Blah...

Just Kidding, I bought it, I love it and I got way more than $200 worth of attention by being first on the block!! I do agree that we should have choices of carriers. AT+T sucks!!

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Matt, SLC UT — Thu, 06 Sep 2007 03:25:56 GMT

Why should Apple be held to a different standard than other cell phone manufacturers. I bought a blackjack in January for $475.00 bucks when it was the hot new phone and now you can pick one up for $100 bucks. Am I bitter?? No. I bought it because it was the phone everyone wanted at the time and you pay a premium for that. Get over it!!!

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Bob, warwick, ri — Thu, 06 Sep 2007 03:27:01 GMT

stupid people. If there was no steve jobs, no one would be buying overpriced $600 phones and computers that don't work with half the software out there. It's classic "cult of personality".
Bunch of boxer sniffers.

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Art, Pearland, Tx. — Thu, 06 Sep 2007 03:35:47 GMT

How ironic that people were fooled over the same apple that satan used to deceive the human race. But hen again this is not about religion but about deception. JC has a point, but then again the motive was greed; how is that for customer service. Popular mechanics has a cover article on how China has now cloned the iphone and made improvements. Let the games begin armageddon is at hand! LOL!

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Lime Lemon, Citrus Valley, CA — Thu, 06 Sep 2007 03:42:02 GMT

Ah, the awesome Apple is beginning to ferment some vinegar instead of rich cider. Pity, really. We invested in the iPear, the iVocado, and the iPeachy phones and have made a veritable fruit salad in profits, not to mention very refreshing communication. Slashing $200 from Job's fobs is no skin off our fruit.

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Bob MacBob, Microsoft, WA — Thu, 06 Sep 2007 04:57:09 GMT

"The price went down after I bought it. You suck Apple. See I'm stopping my feet and peeing my pants!... WAH!!"

Grow up losers.

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Mark, Denver, CO — Thu, 06 Sep 2007 05:16:34 GMT

I would absolutely LOVE to see Apple try and garner any more positive media hype after this snafu... NO ONE will ever line up ever again (or buy within the first 60 days) for fear of another iPhone-like price drop. Apple just burned up, oh, $150M in customer goodwill!!

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Judge, Ferndale, MI — Thu, 06 Sep 2007 05:41:06 GMT

Thanks, but I think I'll stick with my T-Mobile Wing.
It's an extremely better device that does way, way more than that lame ass iPhone.

$500 for basically coverflow and a halfway decent browser, all locked into ATT's crappy network.

If you want a kick-ass touch phone, the HTC Touch is the only way to go. It gives you the slick multi-touch of the iPhone married to a supremely better device. In every way.

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Samir. — Thu, 06 Sep 2007 05:57:45 GMT

It's a product for what we are paying. I got Nokia N 95 for $ 600 from Europe and paid $ 50 to unlock it. Now next will be iphone. Only the at&t high prices and contract hurts as I pay very low right now with t mobile.

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Jerimy Carroll, Seattle, Wash. — Thu, 06 Sep 2007 07:44:22 GMT

I'm very unhappy with the price drops and have posted everywhere I can about it.

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Hacker Jack — Thu, 06 Sep 2007 13:25:23 GMT

i am very happy that the new and less expensive I phone is coming out Now I can wait for the hack on that one, You I phone fanatics are being ripped off by ATT Not to mention by Apple, which stole from the Beatle's record company of the same Name

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Mark, Charlotte, NC — Thu, 06 Sep 2007 17:14:37 GMT

What a bunch of whiners! Early adopters always get burned on price because ... IT IS NOT ABOUT PRICE. My guess is that 99.9% of the present owners of the iPhone already had a very useable cellphone. Early adopting is all about having what someone else doesn't have and you have to pay to play that game. And anyone who believes that Apple killed the early adopter golden goose should go to a mall near them and watch the latest Nano device fly off of the shelves.

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Jayme, worcester, ma — Thu, 06 Sep 2007 17:24:28 GMT

Cell phone prices drop rather quickly. When LG first came out with the chocolate (not as fancy as the iphone i know), they were around $200 or so. When I upgraded my phone less than 4 months later, it was FREE. I want an iphone, but I did not get one for a variety of reasons, mainly being the price. I did not have $600 to drop on a phone. I don't have $400 to drop on the phone. I'm willing to wait another year and half when my plan is up with verizon to make the switch to cingular (if apple hasn't made the phone available to other carriers) to purchase the phone at a much cheaper price. If you purchase a new and innovative phone when it first arrives, you're bound to pay outrageous prices. You also will probably encounter buggy software and other problems.

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Rupang Mehta, New Jersey — Thu, 06 Sep 2007 17:29:10 GMT

I think this was AT&T's call becasue they didn't make as much money as they expected with this phone. AT&T i think was counting on people to go with the highspeed Inet connection and not everyone signs up for a 79.99 per month on a data plan...

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m. New York, Ny — Thu, 06 Sep 2007 17:44:04 GMT

The early adopters are not Apple loyalists, they are attention-seeking fools who thought a smartphone would transform their lives. hahahahaha suckers.

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Over this stupid crap, nashville, tn — Thu, 06 Sep 2007 17:49:40 GMT

Get over it people. This kind of stuff happens all the time to all electronic products. All cell phones go down in price after they are released. You spent 600 because you thought it was worth it at the time. Chalk it up to a loss. Can't you find better things to complain about?

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Low Ball, Seattle WA — Thu, 06 Sep 2007 17:49:46 GMT

"New features, as well as updated phone designs, are rumored to be arriving in the near future"

Makes me glad I haven't bought one yet!

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Lou Magoo — Thu, 06 Sep 2007 18:00:36 GMT

It's a PHONE you superficial poser idiots. Brand loyalty?? Hahaha - Apple wouldn't **** on you if you were on fire. Get back in your Hummer H2s and go impress some mindless bleached blonde, you shallow metrosexual 1/2 a man.

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Adam, NYC, NY — Thu, 06 Sep 2007 19:16:13 GMT

iPhone is not the best phone on the market, never was. The iPhone is a fashion accessory. For that reason, Apple jacked up the price on release, so that people who wanted to appear cool, would buy one. Do you really think an armani suit costs $2000 to make?

All fashion items drop in price when they are no longer new. iPhone got all the suckers in at the inflated price, and now are trying to price the phone closer to the real world marketplace.

Cool items go out of fashion very quickly. Apple is not a religion, it is a company.

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Dr To — Thu, 06 Sep 2007 20:33:11 GMT

Gary, why do you keep posting stories these throw-away almost useless portable phones? There is more to life, even low life, then these over-hyped inflated-function craps. The only thing that's useful in them is, the phone. The phone was invented more than a century ago and all 6 billion people of the world have used them. Why all the stupid fuss about a phone that you can carry and don't care a darn if you drop one and break it. I for one care more about my radio.

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MayB — Thu, 06 Sep 2007 21:41:05 GMT

I love the refurb section at Apple. I managed to get a video ipod for just over a hundred through them a while ago. Of course they were introducing a newer bigger better one but hey it still worked right. Plus I figured it wouldnt be in the best of condition but then I wasn't paying full price either. I was thrilled beyond belief when I got it the next day and it looked band new, no scratches no nicks, it was perfect. I've held off on the iPhone because really 1st gen of anything has tons of problems and glitches, which is precisely what happened with the iPhone. I also expected that with a new generation there would be a price drop and better prices through the refurb store. Its not that big of a surprise that Apple dropped the price, though a little bit I suppose for how quickly but they offered a new product and they're offering a new version. Its their standard pattern so it shouldn't be such a surprise. On top of that, they're offering refunds and credits, that IS a surprise and a nice one at that.

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LW, SD, CA — Thu, 06 Sep 2007 22:10:55 GMT

Apple loyalist have always been hyper-zealous idiots willing to pay top dollar for over-hyped products. Serves you right for putting your faith in a corporation.

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waiting on the second generation — Thu, 06 Sep 2007 22:49:09 GMT

Apple has just set the price for being an early adopter and the price is $200. That's the premium you chose to pay to have the iPhone first. Quit your whining.

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gijo — Fri, 07 Sep 2007 00:49:55 GMT

overstock made apple to cut prices

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Nate M, NYC NY — Fri, 07 Sep 2007 01:15:46 GMT

"All fashion items drop in price when they are no longer new. iPhone got all the suckers in at the inflated price, and now are trying to price the phone closer to the real world marketplace."

- I completely agree with Adam above; I can not for the life of me understand how someone can complain about Apple's pricing strategy. YOU bought the iPhone fair and square. You ASSUMED you understood their pricing strategy through past circumstances. So they changed it, tough!

You MUST have known that you payed too much for any phone to begin with. Ya can't convince me otherwise.

Suckers, one and all. I think it's the best phone to come out, period. I'm still waiting to buy one, though. Feb., '08. That's the time to buy. Model II, cheaper, etc... $400. Just watch.

:)

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W Callison, Paris — Fri, 07 Sep 2007 10:57:44 GMT

Hey Gary -- We haven't seen any data (from you or others) on return rates. Or are the published sales figures net of returns? As you well know, dog devices running 5-10-or more% in returns can ruin the "success" of a product, at least financially.

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Dr To — Mon, 10 Sep 2007 01:53:59 GMT

Ah yes, there's a new entry in wikipedia.

iFool - one who bought an Apple throw-away gizmo for a fool's price, then surprised when screwed by Mr Jobs and Mr Moore.

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Stone Hunter,aururb hills,mi — Mon, 10 Sep 2007 15:27:55 GMT

Voice quality very poor.

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Estix, PA — Mon, 10 Sep 2007 16:00:15 GMT

Hahaha to all the idiots that had to buy the iphone ths first day it came out. Don't get me wrong, I love the product but $600.00 for a phone is too much. I thought somebody had to force apple to lower that price and I'm glad many people didn't buy the iphone for the same reason forcing apple to lower it, now if you did pay 600.00 for a phone you shouldn't be crying for 200.00 drop

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Sammy Cbert — Thu, 13 Sep 2007 05:09:31 GMT

These refurb units are perfectly good. I strongly suggest people take advantage of them. Sometimes its nothing but a simple return in an unopened box. I have been buying Dell refurb stuff for years and haven't had a single problem.

Sammy

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Doodah, CO — Thu, 01 Nov 2007 23:22:00 GMT

Until today, I've never understood why people are willing to pay top dollar for a product they know is going to drop in price after around two to six months. After reading some of the comments posted here, I think i know: People who are sadly desperate for attention are willing to shell out their cash for a sub-par piece of junk. You Apple-kissing suckers deserve everything you get.