AT&T Tilt: Built for speed

P Raris, Pottsville, PA — Sat, 06 Oct 2007 05:10:39 GMT

$999.99 is rather rediculous and slightly misleading, as is $399.99 with a two year contract; I bought one outright from my local AT&T store for $499.99 (plus tax) with no contract earlier today (i am an AT&T wireless customer, however.)

I bought this to replace a problematic 8525 and it is a superior PPC in every way. I was surprised the Tilt/8925/TyTN II/Kaiser was released and pleased with my luck; i am expecting a refund from AT&T on the returned 8525 (dead screen). All in all, the difference between the 8525 and Tilt was, monetarily, slightly over $100 and well worth it if you value your precious built-in memory (128/256 RAM/ROM on the Tilt vs 64/128 RAM/ROM on the 8525) for programs and applications.

AT&T Tilt: Built for speed

Dennis Willis — Sun, 07 Oct 2007 00:47:27 GMT

Would the Sprint Mogul be similar in performance?

AT&T Tilt: Built for speed

Dhiraj,KS — Sun, 07 Oct 2007 01:17:56 GMT

Sprint offers it for 199 and with faster 3 G network that ATT I have used it on Sprint's EVDO network and it is much faster ... and price is competative

AT&T Tilt: Built for speed

Ken :), Overland Park, KS — Sun, 07 Oct 2007 01:19:36 GMT

My local AT&T store looked up my account and said I didn't qualify yet for an upgrade (Bought a BlackJack last year and waiting for the WM6 upgrade that will never come from AT&T) so the price would be $599. What a joke, no way I'm shelling out $600 for a device that is twice as thick as my BlackJack and does only a couple of additional tasks. Had the upgrade path been say $100 I might have gone for it, but $600, not going to fly AT&T!!!

BTW the person at the store informed me that my BlackJack data program had been changed to no longer include tethering (something I had under my original plan) and that if I wanted tethering back it would be $59.99/mo instead of the unlimited $39.99 plan I currently have, oh and that's when unlimited isn't really unlimited now is it? Sounds like monkey business from AT&T once they took over Cingular.

AT&T Tilt: Built for speed

I love my job, nowhere city, usa — Sun, 07 Oct 2007 08:41:36 GMT

Heh. Had no idea we had such a phone. We will probably be trained on it a month from now =/ haha

AT&T Tilt: Built for speed

Steve Davis — Mon, 08 Oct 2007 02:40:49 GMT

This review is bull. I'm returning my Tilt cause of the slow, buggy OS that is Windows Mobile. Without any 3rd party programs it still freezes up like a Treo with Windows. The iPhone may not have 3G, but is twice as fast to render web pages over WiFi - I just tested it. Maybe the reviewer is just trying to get a free phone?

AT&T Tilt: Built for speed

Joe — Mon, 08 Oct 2007 03:01:34 GMT

I'm interested in this device mainly due to the most recent windows mobile. $999 does sound too expensive. I'd rather go for an N95 or an XDA11 is it is true.

AT&T Tilt: Built for speed

R.Smith, Dallas TX — Mon, 08 Oct 2007 03:50:34 GMT

DEAL with Exchange e-mail?
umm... it's basically the world's premier (non POP3) e-mail/colaboration server. Pretty much every large corp. worth its I.T. salt uses it.

Anti-exchange bias anyone?

AT&T Tilt: Built for speed

Christopher John Gores, Saint Louis Park, MN — Mon, 08 Oct 2007 15:12:21 GMT

Of course, 3G is only fast if you HAVE 3G in your area... Here in Minnesota 3G is only in Rochester (read Mayo Clinic), about 90 minutes south of Minneapolis/Saint Paul. Or only in Tulsa, OK... or only in Portland, OR, etc. Check out http://www.wireless.att.com/coverageviewer/popUp_3g.html to see if your city is covered by AT&T's 3G network before buying anything.

AT&T Tilt: Built for speed

Jimmy, Orlando, FL — Mon, 08 Oct 2007 20:28:38 GMT

First off, the phone does not cost $999.99. It's a scam to make you think you're getting a huge discount and that AT&T loves you. AT&T pays HTC somewhere around $450. As someone stated earlier, the phone is $549.99 full price (i.e., without a contract). It's 299.99 after rebates and 2 year contract (no matter who you are). Second, Krakow is slightly misleading readers by stating the 8525 is slower than the Tilt. While Windows Mobile 6.0 may be faster, the 8525 is a 3G phone (just like the Tilt). So data speeds are definitely not improved on the Tilt.

AT&T Tilt: Built for speed

J Lynch — Mon, 08 Oct 2007 22:31:21 GMT

Big miss on the review - the processor and memory are quite different (i.e. read faster and more) for the other devices mentioned. This is not the same device with a tilting screen as the 8525, the TMobile Wing or the Sprint Mogul.

AT&T Tilt: Built for speed

Joe, Daytona Beach, Fla. — Tue, 09 Oct 2007 19:42:01 GMT

Speed: Actually, the Tilt IS faster than the 8525, just not in data speed. Its processor is faster (i.e., more efficient at the same 400mhz clock speed than the 8525's) and it has lots more onboard memory, letting WinMo 6 run faster with less hiccups.

Price: The consumer 2-year contract price is $399 minus $100 in rebates. Yes, the AT&T Premier site lies about the base price of the phones so they can show a huge company discount. Though a lot of companies mark up prices before applying discounts, Premier's markups are insane, and very obvious since you can compare to the consumer site. It's amazing they get away with this! Actually, it's no surprise. :-/

Freezing/iPhone: I've had my Tilt since it was released and it hasn't frozen on me once. I've also got it loaded down with lots of apps in main memory, too! My 8125 was the crash king, so this is a pleasant surprise. Smartphones do crash sometimes, and the iPhone is in that crowd (google iphone crash). Also, sometimes you get a bad one. Why not exchange yours buddy?

Push/Exchange: I love my exchange account, but you can get push email on your WM phone other ways! It supports Hotmail/Windows Live push natively. Or you can use an app like eMoze. Also, you can get FREE Exchange push email from places like mail2web.com.

Tethering: You can still tether your devices with the cheaper plans, but, they hide the application to do so in the phone (it's still there), and it's against the agreement. So, you know, they're free to charge you some whopping per-kb fee if they figure out you're doing it. This has been coming for a long time, actually. They're just ramping up enforcement :-/

AT&T Tilt: Built for speed

Bdub, Houston , Tx — Thu, 11 Oct 2007 20:30:25 GMT

The Mogul and the Tilt use the same dual core processor (Application Processor & CDM or GSM chip on a single piece of silicon). The version in the Sprint Mogul is designed for CDMA 3G and the one in the Tilt is designed for the GSM 3G network. The T-Mobile Wing processor uses a low end 200mhz processor. The tilt adds the tilting screen and is full GPS enabled.

AT&T Tilt: Built for speed

EJRH Charleston, WV — Mon, 15 Oct 2007 10:53:15 GMT

Yes the Dual Core 400 MHz 256 Rom/128 Ram 8925 aka the Tilt is faster than the Wing (200 MHz) and the solo core 400 MHz 128 Rom/64 Ram 8525. not sure about the mogul as it uses a diff cell technology than its GSM counterparts which could affect data speed but not the speed of the device.

AT&T Tilt: Built for speed

Mike Fisher, Grapevine, TX — Mon, 15 Oct 2007 22:47:10 GMT

I got one of these from AT&T as an upgrade from my current Blackjack, and I sent it back after two days.

I hope it's just the device I received, not every one that's made, but key presses were hit and miss on the QWERTY. Most of the time they worked okay, but occasionally it would take several presses to get a key to work, and then I would get a bunch of characters all at once. It took me forever to enter contacts that way. Really irritating.

The ergonomics on the thing were awful. The softkeys are right at the edge of the slide when the QWERTY is pulled out, and you have to use a fingernail, not your whole finger to push them. When the display is tilted up, it's even worse. Also, the display has no incremental ratcheting on the tilt, so if you use the stylus on the screen with it in anything but the full-flat position, the tension on the screen hinges isn't enough to keep the screen from folding back.

Overall, a good comceptual design, but poor implementation.

AT&T Tilt: Built for speed

Waddy, KY — Mon, 22 Oct 2007 13:10:38 GMT

I'm thinking of purchasing the blackberry curve vs. the AT&T tilt. Any suggestions?

AT&T Tilt: Built for speed

BIG Moe — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 14:53:22 GMT

I don't know where you be getting your phone, but I got mine for $70 dollar with two year contract, with data plan

AT&T Tilt: Built for speed

Sebastian, OC CA — Fri, 02 Nov 2007 00:34:04 GMT

I have a Tilt for sale if you live in SoCal for $300. No Contract.

AT&T Tilt: Built for speed

darline — Fri, 02 Nov 2007 02:43:05 GMT

Big Moe,
Where did you get a Tilt for $70?